Walking Dead, S3:E8, “Made to Suffer” Midseason finale

“All this running from walkers… You forget what people do. What they’ve always done.”

Must feel great to look like Mrs. Governor's-Dead-Wife.

Must feel great to look like Mrs. Governor’s-Dead-Wife.

Walking Dead’s mid-season finale, the much anticipated conflict between Team Prison and Woodbury, might have been packed with smoke, bullets, and chaos, but delivered a much lower body count than my unofficial twitter-polling anticipated.

The sounds of screaming underscore five strangers fleeing walkers in the woods. Donna, the woman having hysterics, gets bit in short order and honestly it’s a wonder she has survived this long in the undead apocalypse at large. Her husband and son are reasonably devastated, but the couple with them is torn between practicality and humanity; Sasha wants to leave Donna behind, while Tyreese is unwilling to sacrifice her.

As Andrea primps she sees a family photo; she bears an uncanny resemblance to Phillip’s wife, but puts it aside when the Governor cuddles her. He treats her like she’s delicate, and at her insistence on helping Milton cremate Mr. Coleman, he muses that Woodbury and its people are starting to grow on her. When she’s gone he retreats to his creepy sanctuary and uncages Penny. His singing is reminiscent of Milton’s attempts at memory-retention, but Penny remains wild. He screams at her then seems horrified, perhaps by his loss of cool, or by the realization that there’s really nobody home in his daughter.

Glenn has given Maggie his shirt. As she affirms that GOV really didn’t hurt her, they comfort each other. Glenn rips bones from the walker Merle set on him to use as weapons; with each episode Glenn becomes more resourceful, proving that he’s a true survivor willing to do whatever it takes.

Michonne leaves ‘Team Prison’ like a lone wolf and almost gets shot by the edgy Daryl, Rick and Oscar when she returns from a quick reconnaissance. There’s a power struggle between Rick and Michonne; he doesn’t trust her, especially when she can’t pinpoint precisely where Maggie and Glenn are being held. They catch a man looking for curfew stragglers and zip-tie him for questioning.

GOV scoffs at Merle’s idea to move Woodbury to the prison. “People love it here because it feels like what was.” He wants to make Daryl their inside man, to wave a white flag like they did when they ambushed the National Guard survivors, then kill Rick’s group. He tells Merle to take Maggie and Glenn to the ‘screaming pits’ so Andrea can’t stumble across them. This goes poorly; Maggie stabs a man in the throat with the walker arm bones as Glenn wrestles Merle, then she points a gun at Merle. Reinforcements arrive and the tables turn again. Gunfire attracts Rick’s group and they close in on the captives, using smoke grenades for cover. They rescue Maggie and Glenn tidily, but are then faced with escaping Woodbury on high alert.

Amidst rising panic, GOV tries to keep Andrea away from the chaos lest she recognize people. He urges ‘civilians’ to stay inside, lock doors, and keep lights off. GOV claims a perimeter breach, setting patrols for ‘terrorists’ and telling his soldiers not to take chances, to shoot to kill. Andrea’s mutinous; she wants to be the cowboy. “You want me to do house calls? Make sure everyone’s tucked in?” He plays it off, insisting he needs someone with authority, and she relents.

Glenn tells Daryl Merle was responsible, and apologizes to Rick for giving up the prison. Daryl has an abrupt break from the cool collected man he’s become, eager to find his brother. Rick’s scene with Daryl is a mirror of the conversation between GOV and Merle from “When the Dead Come Knocking,” asserting loyalty to the group first and his brother second.

With more smoke bombs for cover, they try to sneak out. Andrea sees an intruder, but conveniently it’s Oscar, the only one she wouldn’t recognize. Daryl lays down cover fire so the others can escape; he wants to linger in hopes of seeing Merle. In slow motion, Rick sees (or does he? Crazypants!) a man that looks like Shane shoot Oscar. Rick pulls his other gun and kills the man, and as Maggie delivers a headshot to Oscar they shout to Daryl that it’s time to go.

Michonne has set up in GOV’s place, sitting with katana drawn and waiting. She hears a noise and bursts into GOV’s creeper cave. Even she’s stunned by the wall of heads, but hears Penny rattling around. In spite of the obvious walker sounds Michonne softens, dropping her weapon and comforting what she thinks is a child, even unleashing Penny before pulling off the head-bag. Sympathy turns to revulsion but before she can kill Penny the Governor appears, pleading. He takes Michonne in stride considering Merle said he killed her, and removes his gun, “There’s no need for her to suffer.”

“She doesn’t have needs.”

“Don’t hurt my little girl. Please.”

Michonne’s face is priceless. Shock, disgust… Then she kills Penny. GOV goes ballistic and they wrestle, smashing into walls and aquariums, choking and biting. The walker heads are still chomping. Michonne can’t reach her katana and settles for a shard of glass, stabbing Phillip in the eye. Midway through the killing blow she comes face-to-face with Andrea. “What have you done?”

Thank you, queen of stupid questions. Let’s talk about your boyfriend instead of the fishtanks of walker heads or his dead daughter. Michonne, looking as though she never imagined facing down Andrea at sword-point, backs off. GOV cries over his daughter, and Andrea sees the disembodied heads amidst the rubble. Revelation?

Wait for it. Wait for it…

She goes to comfort Phillip.

Meanwhile back at the prison, Beth is caring for baby Judith. Axel chats her up in an uncomfortable way; even if she’s seventeen she seems so young, and Carol pulls Axel aside for a talk about trying to ‘repopulate’ with Beth. He shrugs it off as slim pickings; after all Maggie is with Glenn and Carol is a lesbian. She looks torn between amusement, confusion, and irritation as she sets him straight (pun!), and when he realizes her short hair doesn’t make her gay he grins. “Interesting.” No, no it’s not. Sweet Carol burn.

Later, screams echo through the prison. Carl and Hershel debate who will investigate, but Carl wins, “My father would go.” He finds the new survivors in a dire situation, and they’re stunned to see him. He urges them to safety.

Donna dies. Carl offers to finish her, but Tyreese refuses. “We take care of our own.” As he prepares to smash Donna’s skull with a hammer, Carl locks them in. “This room is secure. You’ll be safe.” Sasha panics but Tyreese calms her, calling Carl a man. “This is the best we’ve had it in weeks. His house.” Tyreese is clearly another strong leader, aware of his responsibilities and the order of things.

Beth looks conflicted. “Shouldn’t we help them?”

“I did.” Carl finally gets it. In season 2 watching him steal guns and taunt walkers, I never thought he’d make it this far. But he’s been burdened with heavy choices and responsibility this season, and is rising to each occasion.

After the doctor, Andrea gets down to the important questions. She asks why Michonne was there, then finally about the fishtanks and Penny. GOV’s explanation is fair, even if it glosses over the psychotic elements of his office. “I made myself look at them… to prepare me for the horrors outside.” Milton and Merle rush in. When Merle announces the attackers made it over the wall, Phillip’s one eye looks murderous.

Outside Woodbury, Rick and the others wait for Daryl. Michonne returns, and the reception isn’t warm. Accusatory, Rick takes her katana, but she wants to stay with the group now. She explains that whether they go back to the prison or head in to find Daryl, they’ll need her. Faced with her sudden desperation, Rick looks skeptical.

Woodbury is assembled at the walker fight ring from “Say the Word.” The Governor walks out like a battered leader, but has a rallying speech in his pocket.

What can I say? Hasn’t been a night like this since the walls were completed, and I thought we were past it. Past the days when we all sat huddled, scared in front of the TV during the early days of the outbreak. The fear we all felt then… We felt it again tonight. I failed you. I promised to keep you safe. Hell, look at me. I should tell you that we’ll be okay. That we’re safe. That tomorrow we’ll bury our dead and endure, bur I can’t, because I’m afraid. Afraid of the terrorists…. who want what we have and are trying to destroy us.

Terrorists. Like any good politician, he makes a move to unite his people against the threat of a mysterious ‘other,’ but needs one final piece to cement Woodbury’s bloodlust. He sells Merle Dixon as the sacrificial lamb, stripping him of his bayonet and accusing him of being the ‘man on the inside’ (like he wanted to make Daryl). With the crowd howling, he reveals Daryl. The brothers come face to face for the first time in almost a year. Ominous, the Governor intones, “You wanted your brother. Now you got him.”

The non-stop action wasn’t without nuance; this was the first time Michonne expressed much of anything outside suspicion and ruthlessness. Her back story with Andrea is still unexplained, and her sudden need to stay with Rick is curious at least. Rick’s back-and-forth indecision suggests he’s still in transition between Ricktatorship and Officer Friendly; he’s struggling to find a workable balance, unable to trust his gut any longer.Tyreese’s arrival and his nod to taking care of his own raises to mind whether he’ll fall in harmoniously with the established pecking order or will try to seize power; he’s used to being in charge, but also seems kindhearted and sensible.

Daryl’s loyalties between the group and blood have been tested; with Daryl being the consummate survivor, likely he only got captured because some part of him wanted to. His showdown with Merle ought to be epic, but if the Governor is forcing them to fight to the death in an arranged circumstance instead of it happening organically as a result of character differences, the show will have missed the golden opportunity to let three seasons of Daryl’s development set its own conflict with Merle.

Carol’s dismissal of Mustache Axel is badass; even without him calling her a lesbian, Carol doesn’t have to settle just because the world has ended. Maggie’s rebound from her horrifying interrogation is perfect; in spite of spilling the location of the prison she has remained strong.

And Andrea… Andrea… If she buys GOV’s story about Daryl and company being a terrorist, I think she’s gone beyond redemption. I’ve been known to make some poor choices in the name of sex and I can forgive her Shane, but this is ridiculous. Between that and her continued insistence of shooting first and asking questions later, this girl has got to get it together. Thank god for Carol and Maggie, man, proof that women can still be strong and capable without being trigger-fingered idiots, and can still get theirs without being led around by their genitals. I’m hoping for more of the same from Sasha, though her hard pragmatism about Donna makes me worry we’re getting another Lori.

Share with me your feels!

Quick note: For the Mid-season break I’ll be running through S1, trying to see the episodes with fresh eyes, and also examining them in the greater framework of the season. If you’ve got Netflix or the DVDs,  follow along!


22 thoughts on “Walking Dead, S3:E8, “Made to Suffer” Midseason finale

  1. Robb Zahm says:

    Oscar’s death was rough for me, but I foresaw it simply because he’s the most expendable of the rescue team, and there was no way they were getting out of there without taking a loss. Still, I blame Rick and his continued struggle with his past. Rick had the Shane-a-like-plus-goatee that shot Oscar in his sights, ready for the kill. (Seriously, I loved the Community-esque “Evil-Shane goatee“; I laughed out loud for that.) If Rick had it together, Oscar wouldn’t have had to die. I did not agree with Maggie’s decision to shoot Oscar and prevent him from turning, though. I’d have advocated leaving him there, letting him turn, and using that as cover for their escape. But then, maybe I’m a bit of a cold sonofabitch when it comes to Woodbury.

    In the GOV’s fish-tank-man-cave, I was so worried Penny would get a mouthful of Michonne. As you said, those moans were clearly walker sounds; what did Michonne expect to find under that hood? I’m so glad the little girl’s reflexes are somewhat slowed by being a member of the shambling dead; as I’ll get to in a moment, Michonne really started to come together for me this episode. And the GOV’s pleading with Michonne, “There’s no need for her to suffer.” That fully invoked the title for me, in a couple of possible ways – the girl had been made to suffer, as has the GOV, by Penny’s turning, and the only use Michonne has for walkers now is to kill them or chain them as camouflage / pack mules. She has completely detached herself from any sympathy for the people they once had been; as far as Michonne is concerned, if walkers have any awareness at all, they are made solely so they can suffer.

    Michonne’s moment with Penny before taking off the hood, however, was nice to see. It showed Michonne’s sensitivity to those still living, her connection to life. As foolish as it was, I was glad it happened, because it alleviated my fears that Michonne had lost all sense of who she once had been. She thought this was a little girl, trapped much like Andrea is, but with far more literal chains. Michonne was worried for this girl, wanted to protect her, rescue her if possible… until Michonne took off the hood. But Michonn’es behavior up to that point, her tenderness – that is why I now accept her having bonded with Andrea while Andrea was sick out in the wilderness, and that was what helped me to understand Michonne’s desire to go back and rejoin the group. She knew that group was caring for their own, working to rescue Glen and Maggie, and taking care of a child. That is somewhere I think she feels she might belong, a place where she might be able to hold on to that part of herself that still survives from who she was before the outbreak. It might be hard for her to join the group, given Rick’s distrust because of her disappearance, and I foresee that creating a lot of tension between them in the future, but I can see how that drive will push her to work to become a part of the team, to fight to be accepted.

    Back at the prison, I’m very proud of Carl. He handled the situation of finding the new survivors exactly as New Rick (pre-Lori’s death) would have. With Daryl having his own situation keeping him in Woodbury, it’s good to see the little man (thank you Tyreese) taking control at home. The Axel / Carol / Beth scenario is not one with which I’m very happy, though. I was looking forward to Axel and Oscar redeeming themselves and becoming a part of the group. I’m hoping we don’t find out that Carol has any further conflict with Axel while they’ve been in the watch tower. His earlier obsequiousness I found somewhat endearing; I don’t want him to become a new problem for the group.

    As for the new survivor group, Tyreese’s comments and behavior mirror Rick’s when they first settled into the farm, after the Carl-crisis had passed. In my head, I finished Tyreese’s comment of “his house,” with, “his rules,” and I was honestly surprised when Tyreese did not. The survivors from the new group are harbingers, both of what can come in through that breach that admitted them and of a potential new conflict for Rick to deal with. Will he take them in, as Herschel eventually took in Rick’s band, or will he see them as a threat, as he did the inmates?

    The “terrorist” colloquy at Woodbury was masterfully delivered yet painful to hear. The crowds of onlookers, screaming for blood, truly living up to Andrea’s assertion that the pits are teaching them to embrace the savagery of this new world – gorgeous! But was this a not-so-subtle political commentary by the writers? I wanted the GOV to say “nucular” during his speech. Just once, and I’d have been happy.

    And Andrea. Ugh. I didn’t catch her resemblance to the GOV’s ex-wife, but I did think, while Andrea was looking at that photo, “Wow – the teeth on that man’s wife. No wonder he calls them ‘biters’ instead of ‘walkers.’ That woman must have made quite the fearsome biter….” Unkind? Admittedly. Superficial? Also granted. But the connection to her and Andrea (whom my brother affectionately calls “Duck-Lips”) – that one I didn’t catch. I feel better about myself as a human being, having needed to have that pointed out to me.

    But yes, Andrea. I was quite displease with her performance during the “terrorist attack”. I can only hope she redeems herself by being integral in the recovery and escape of Merle and Daryl. I’m not sure Merle will be redeemed, but I want Andrea to try. If she can reunite with the rest of the group, I will stop thinking of her as a character I don’t care to think about.


    • fissionerror says:

      I guess the writers were trying to be subtle about all their parallels. *snicker* I think this is more of a pivotal moment for Andrea than it is for Merle, Daryl, or Phil. She needs to take the fuck-blinders off and actually SEE what’s happening in Woodbury, because right now she’s beyond unlikeable, and not in the good way that the Governor is–Andrea is verging into Lori territory, fast.

      This is a great assessment! Are you hiding a blog somewhere?


      • Robb Zahm says:

        Subtlety is not something of which I’ve frequently accused the writers in the past.

        I fully agree with you on how this moment will impact my opinion of Andrea, making it more pivotal for her than the others in that sense: Daryl, Merle, and Phil had all come into their own rather early in their development (Merle in the first few seconds of screen time), establishing for me who they were and how I should feel about them, whereas Andrea has continued to make me wonder how I should feel, how I wanted to feel. I respected her choice to “check out” back at the CDC, and even understood her resentment of Dale for “forcing” her to live.* I did not appreciate how long she brooded at Dale over it, and how she was constantly looking for a chance to leave the group. I appreciated her desire to join the fighting team, learn how to use a gun, and defend herself and others, but shooting Daryl when he came back from his reconnaisance-turned-medicine-walk was careless, since 1) the group knew he was out there alone, 2) the distance between the presumed “walker” and the farm-camp was significant, 3) others were running to take care of it without wasting a bullet or issuing a gun report throughout the immediate area, and 4) the sun-was-in-my-eyes excuse doesn’t hold water when you shouldn’t be pulling the trigger anyway. Rescuing Carol when the farm got overrun was beyond heroic though, and I hated how Andrea got left behind after putting herself on the line at that moment.

        So yes, I’ve been sitting on a 10′ stone fence about Andrea for a while, and this will probably push me to one side or the other. The fact that she’s been flirting with the GOV since they arrived at Woodbury has not helped her case, but I’ve been willing to give her the benefit of the doubt simply because I cannot blame her or anyone else for wanting to believe what he’s offering as a return to what life had been before the “outbreak.” I don’t think the fact she’s sleeping with him is the only thing that has kept her from seeing how unstable he is; the whole world has gone to the wrong side of being unstable, and now he’s presenting an outpost that has a thick veneer of stability. She shouldn’t want to chip away at it, to look beneath the whitewash. That was why I had worried so much about Michonne – her eagerness to scrape away the paint, although insightful, suggested she may have lost her humanity in her struggle to survive. To me Michonne only became a likeable character once she had made the very human mistake of hugging a hooded walker and taking the little menace off the chain.

        But no; I have no hidden blogs anywhere on the interwebs. Thanks for asking, though – it’s nice to know I warrant the suspicion of regular writing. Sadly, I lack independent inspiration; I much prefer blog-bombing on your Walking Dead posts, as your observations give me something about which to write. I’ve considered starting to watch American Horror Story so that I can read and participate on those posts, too. If it’s something you’re willing to blog about, I suspect it’s probably worth watching.

        *Note on events at the CDC: I really felt bad for Jackie in all that. Dale is sitting there essentially pleading with Andrea not to give up; meanwhile, Jackie, the first of the group to declare her intent to stay, is being completely ignored. Nobody is camping out at her feet to guilt her into living – hell, I don’t think Dale and Andrea even gave her a hug goodbye when they decided to make a run for the exit. It was like they forgot she was there – and it’s not as though she had been dead-weight up until that point, either! I mean, seriously; she’s may be black, but she’s not invisible! Why did they just leave her?

        “Andrea, you can’t just give up like this! You have to fight, to live, to go on! Don’t let this terrible new world beat you without a struggle! Your life means something! …what; Jackie? …meh.”


      • fissionerror says:

        Ugh I know what you mean about Jackie! PFFFT to hell with you, woman! I get that Dale had an especially close relationship with Andrea, and I’d LIKE to think it meant everyone respected Jackie’s ability to make her own choices, but I know that’s just wishful thinking.

        All your points about Andrea/Michonne and their un/willingness to chip away at Woodbury’s illusion are absolutely perfect.

        Andrea is a hard character; I can sympathize with her a lot of the time; having been a civil rights lawyer in the ‘real’ world it makes sense she’d want to be actively doing something instead of washing laundry and doing the passive and unglamorous chores of day-to-day life. However, her need to ‘prove’ herself comes off as bratty and impractical, like the undead apocalypse should be the Andrea Show, starring Andrea, produced by Andrea, with promotional consideration by Andrea. Seriously, get over yourself. If Lori wants to make lemonade, who gives a flying fuck? Andrea’s selfish desires–especially when she shoots Daryl–so often overwhelm what’s best for the group, and she doesn’t even care! Even if Daryl HAD been a walker, she could have shot any one of the people running toward him because, as evidenced by the fact that she only winged Daryl, her aim was a little off.

        I think she’s got a wrong idea of what it means to be strong and important; she wants to run off and play with guns and get her hands dirty whether it’s the best thing she could be doing or not. Regardless of his motives for doing so, Phil asking her to check on the residents was the RIGHT thing to do; she DOES have authority with Woodbury now, and her comfort would have been received as the Governor’s own words by those people. She could have kept them inside and saved their lives, but instead she wanted to run around and shoot things because it’s the Andrea Show.


      • Robb Zahm says:

        Oh – and I have noticed the general anti-Lori sentiment, but I hadn’t yet found this blog until “The Killer Within” episode, so I didn’t get exposed to why Nobody Loves Lori. Was it how she treated Rick in the pre-apocalypse? Was it because she took so long to tell Rick about her little “while you were sleeping” moments with Shane? The fact that she went and got preggers during a zombie apocalypse? Her low kill count, suggesting she is even more dead-weight than Carol? All of the above, or am I missing something?

        Because – and this might not be a popular sentiment – I did not share in the celebration when she didn’t make it through the delivery. I wanted her to have the chance to fix things with Rick, and I wanted Rick to have the chance to figure out how to use his God-damned words and tell her how he felt instead of awkwardly avoiding both eye-contact and conflict points every time he was alone with her. I felt Rick had fought too hard to reunite with her and Carl, only to have her die in part because he was too weak to kill the inmate that would later open the gates and shut off the generators. I guess I might as well just come out and say it: I liked Lori. What am I missing that made her so irredeemable?


      • fissionerror says:

        Lori. Lori, Lori, Lori.

        I like the actress that played Lori; I think she’s both skilled and attractive. I also think she wasn’t given a lot to work with, because the show is either disinterested or incapable of giving the peripheral characters the same depth and nuance they’ve given to Rick. I’ll break down my feelings quick-and-dirty like, because I do intend to go back and do S1 and S2 in detail.

        Lori in S1 wasn’t so bad.
        Sleeping with shane: Understandable, forgivable.
        Not telling Rick: Understandable, forgivable.
        Not wanting Rick to go back for Merle: Understandable, forgivable.

        Lori in S2: trainwreck.
        After Jim’s warning in S1 to not let Carl out of her sight and after what happens with Sophia, she almost goes out of her way to ignore her son.
        her constant catty quibbling with Andrea and Carol? Irritating. Getting pregnant in the apocalypse? Well, shit happens. Sending Glenn back to town for ‘abortion pills’ and expecting him to lie for her? Irritating. Playing Rick against Shane like Lady MacBeth? Irritating. Manipulative. Rick is SO desperate to please her that he compromises the things he feels are right to make her happy, THEN when he’s done exactly as she asked, she shits all over him. THEN when he’s reasonably annoyed by this she’s all “POOR ME, my husband hates me waaah”

        Lori became a plot device rather than a person, but nothing about her ever seemed sincere; everything seemed calculated, every word weighed for the greatest significance. Even before she’s introduced, when Rick and Shane are commiserating in S1:E1, she’s vilifying him in front of Carl. Granted, that’s Rick’s version of what happened, but if I had to choose a reliable person between the pair, it would be Rick over Lori.

        I have a lot of feels, but I think I need to do them episode by episode to make sense of it without it just coming out as a pile of profanity; I’ll take extra care to think on it as I rewatch S1/S2, and we can reconvene!


      • Robb Zahm says:

        Perhaps I’ve been conditioned to be respectful of anyone’s attempts at self-actualization, regardless of outcome of motive, but regardless, I never notcied before how self-centered Andrea has been. I think you’re absolutely right, though:

        Her need to be the one to deal with Amy, even to the point of pulling a gun on Officer Friendly, endangering herself by waiting until Amy had turned, awoken, and started trying to get up and bite someone, all because she needed to say a few words and didn’t feel like doing it over non-moving corpse like the rest of us well-adjusted adults? Pretty selfish. Her desire to join Shane and split off from the group because she felt under-appreciated? Seriously, why would he want her watching his back when she just finished telling him the group doesn’t think she can pull her own weight? She just wanted to a part of the drama-team, since at that point, Shane was getting attention, and his departure would have been controversial. There wasn’t much evidence for it when she wanted Michonne to leave her when she was sick in the wilderness, but I can even see how it fits with their conversation at that time – don’t leave Andrea because she doesn’t want you to leave her, she wants you to prove how dedicated to her you are (even though she lets you walk out on her later and never questions how you seem to think Woodbury is a m ore dire situation than being sick alone in the woods surrounded by walkers). Or leave Andrea and she gets to be the martyr, dramatically left behind for the sake of the hero’s survival, and perhaps even pulling another miraculous return from the dead, only this time by saving herself rather than being saved by Michonne. Hell, when Michonne killed the walker that was about to eat her in the final moments of Season 2, I’m surprised she say, “thanks, but I could have handled it myself.”

        As for Lori, you may also be right on how her character took a nose-dive during Season 2. I’ll follow you on the rewatch over the next few weeks, and throw in my observations as appropriate. Certainly I felt she was making bad life choices, but I hadn’t gotten to the point of anxiously awaiting her final moments rather than hoping she’d get her shit together and finally stop following mistake with mistake. We’ll see how we feel about her, and the others, this next run through. I’m glad you’re rewatching – I was probably going to anyway, and it will be good to have a reason and a chance to discuss. The hard part will be holding myself to only one episode a week….


  2. sidekickreviews says:

    That’s a good catch about the Governor’s wife in the photo resembling Andrea. That add’s another layer to why he’s so protective of Andrea and wanted to ensure she didn’t see her former group.


  3. sj says:

    Since you haven’t read the comics, what do you think Michonne’s motivation for waiting in the Governor’s apartment was? My husband hasn’t read them either, and without going into a long detailed thing (which I’m not allowed to do because I SPOIL THINGS ACCIDENTALLY) about comicevents, I couldn’t tell him. Also, because her motivation in the comics didn’t happen in the show.

    I’m finding it difficult to care for her, which is odd because she’s one of my favourite characters in the comics (but so is Andrea and I effing HATE her on tv).

    I do love Carl, though. He’s not the whiny brat I wanted to see die a year ago.


    • fissionerror says:

      I’d have to assume she wanted revenge for him ‘letting’ her go, then sending Merle and company after her to kill her. Plus there’s probably the side bonus of killing him in the hopes that it will ‘free’ andrea of her attachment to Woodbury, like if he’s dead she’ll magically snap back to reality and it can be the Andrea & Michonne show again. I’m SOOO curious about what happened between A&M during the between seasons break that led to their attachment, and want to know why Michonne would care so much about Andrea while Andrea seemed pretty quick to throw her over for a hot piece.


      • sj says:

        Yeah, that’s what everyone else is saying, but I don’t buy it. She knew he was going to do that, which is why she was waiting for them to show up. I think it’s kind of a ridiculous thing to GO BACK for, you know?

        I’m also curious about what happened between them during the season break. I’m so frustrated by clueless Andrea, I just want to reach through my screen and punch her in the face.


      • fissionerror says:

        GO BACK LOLOL I so sympathize on Andrea, since I was one of her defenders in the last season, and now I’m all STFU Bitch Y U NO SMART? Like…. She was a LAWYER. Andrea. ANDREA. STAHP.


      • sj says:

        I think the more action she gets, the stupider she gets. Now that she’s gettin’ some on the reg, she’s got, like, no brains left. Bluh.


  4. MaximumWage says:

    Yeah I think at this point its pretty obvious that Andrea has really bad taste in men.

    I still can’t get over how much of a bad ass michonne is. Seriously waiting in the office like a hit woman.

    I liked the nod to the first season, when the guys left Merle on the roof. Will Rick and the team leave Daryl or go after him?

    Still kind of curious about that first group, and that “thing” that isn’t ready. His backpack holds the key to something.


    • fissionerror says:

      I’d be really surprised if, after the way their relationship has developed this season, Rick agrees to leave Daryl behind. On the other hand they must have spent a lot of their already limited ammunition in that fire fight, and they know how heavily Woodbury is packing. A show of strength is unlikely to work, but so is stealth simply because they don’t have enough information. I’m super curious.


  5. thefoodandwinehedonist says:

    Great point about letting go an opportunity to play out the Merle/Darryl thing. Can’t imagine we’re going to get that when the show resumes… And you’re right about Michonne starting to show some humanity – especially when she sees Penny. That is, up until…. That was brutal.


    • fissionerror says:

      The only thing I can think is GOV would want to drag it out, create some fervor under the pretense of ‘interrogating’ them, while they gather more biters for a fight ring, so maybe Daryl and Merle will have a chance to team up and escape, just in time to realize they kinda hate each other.


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